Posts by Pete Zahut

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Do You Think We Will Ever Get To “Normal” Again?

by minimus in

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friends

will we ever be able to congregate together for a concert or a theater?

will we forever be wearing a mask at walmart?

will restaurants and bars allow people to eat drink and simply hang out?.

Pete Zahut

I fear that all the x-tra hand washing and sanitizing may be making our immune systems weak or lazy and more susceptible to the regular germs and bacteria that we were once able to fight off because we were exposed to them on a day to day basis.

I remember a few years ago I was going on winter vacation to a sunny tropical place and I wanted to make sure I didn't catch a cold or the flu before we left and ruin the vacation. A few weeks before we left I was super diligent about washing my hands and using hand sanitizers and not touching my face. I even went so far as to wipe down the armrests and tray table on the plane with a antibacterial wipe.

Two days after we arrived, I got some sort of flu and it just about knocked me out. I have never been so sick before or since. My wife, who is in the medical field, says it was because I had weakened my immune system by killing every germ and bacteria instead of having built up a resistance to them.

Who knows ?

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The Most High

by Lost in the fog in

saw this on a friend's facebook page.

of course all the jws were quick to say that it must have been the apostate israelites.

bbc news - 'cannabis burned during worship' by ancient israeli test.

Pete Zahut

Makes sense since religion has been likened to the "opium of the people" and Marijuana is considered a "gateway drug".

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Hillary is telling all Americans to NOT CONCEDE IF TRUMP WINS----FIGHT! What will you do if you are put in a corner.

by pistolpete in

hillary clinton is telling all democratic supporters to be ready to fight if trump wins.

other democratic leaders are telling the masses to destroy everything in their cities and cripple the economy if trump is elected president.

other democratic leaders are appealing to the military who support the democratic agenda to step in and stop any arm citizens on the side of trump if he is elected, and remove the president by force if he wins the election.. hillary clinton is making it clear to the democratic supporters, that joe biden will become president -after president trump becomes elected.. looks like a dictator coup d'état,to overthrow the usa government by non-democratic means is now in the making.

Pete Zahut

I would like to know the exact context around Hilary's statement before I drew any conclusions. Surely people must realize that video's can be edited . What she may have said two seconds before or after her comment about Trump, could change the whole meaning of what she said in this clip, if it were to be edited out.

I always have to examine the possible motives behind the use of clips like these.

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Why Do Intelligent People Still Believe In The Jehovah’s Witness Religion?

by minimus in

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i understand it’s a cult.

but what makes an intelligent person actually believe they have the “truth” as taught by jehovah’s witnesses??

?.

Pete Zahut

Why Do Intelligent People Still Believe In The Jehovah's Witness Religion?

It's likely we all think of ourselves as reasonably intelligent so all we have to do is look back at our own JW experience and think about all the various reasons we stayed in. Same old reasons....different people.

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How Often is 1914 Openly Spoken of at the Meetings?

by Number 6 in

as someone who left in 1991 aged 21, one of my overriding memories of growing up in the watchtower was being able to "prove" the end times by referencing 1914.. major change in 95 then again after that.

if i'm being honest i could not even tell you now what the current teaching is.. for those who still attend the meetings, is it still openly spoken about?

i genuinely curious as i wonder if the teaching will be altogher dropped eventually, and one of the easiest ways to achieve that is to stop speaking about it.

Pete Zahut

It's to the point where younger JW's can't understand why the inaccuracy of that date would even bother us former long time JW's.

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Poll/ So Who Do You Think Will Win The Presidency?

by minimus in

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i have always felt trump will win again.

i just don’t see biden winning.. what’s your prediction?.

Pete Zahut

It seems to me there are a lot of (moderate) people who don't necessarily like Trumps image but are put off by the obvious bias in the media toward him and are leaning in favor him more and more. They're becoming more willing to consider him as a possibility.

Those who are against Trump feel quite free to be LOUD about it. From what I can tell, there are a lot of folks who are leaning his way but are hesitant to say so, out loud.

Either way, as we've seen heavily all throughout Trumps Presidency, there are checks and balances in place that would prevent whomever wins, from doing anything too "out there". To me, that's why things stay relatively the same, no matter who is president.

I'm not too worried about the outcome of the election but what do I know ??

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Do You Think We Will Ever Get To “Normal” Again?

by minimus in

jw
friends

will we ever be able to congregate together for a concert or a theater?

will we forever be wearing a mask at walmart?

will restaurants and bars allow people to eat drink and simply hang out?.

Pete Zahut

Surely there are more virus out there that have always been poised and ready to cross over into the human population but didn't because they died out before they got too far.

Let's hope not but I fear that because the world has become so small, what we're seeing now will become a regular thing unless serious sanitation precautions worldwide are enforced. In the meantime, I'm guessing that along with the usual security checks before boarding a plane, there'll be some sort of health screening process and at the very least, you'll be required to be wearing a face mask and have your temperature taken or proof that you've been tested for whatever the virus of the month is. Who knows, mandatory quarantining of travelers before they are free to roam, may become the norm.

The left over old JW mindset makes me wonder about the Bible prophesy regarding pestilence and disease in the last days

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William Miller

by lepavoux in

" this is the man who made it all happen" type this in.. this is how the watchtower organization began!

!.

Pete Zahut

You, however, are a hypocrite as your degeneration into insult, the very thing for which you scold me, shows. I see no reason to take you seriously, no matter how much you rant.

Wow...after all I've said, there you go with the names again. You don't even know me but you resort to calling names. You now say that I'm a hypocrite because I dared to call you out on your rudeness earlier. Before that you accused me of not wanting to hear anything controversial. Which is it? I'm a rude and controversial hypocrite or I am I afraid of hearing controversy?

I see no reason to take you seriously, no matter how much you rant. You want to talk history, I'm here. Otherwise, you're whistling in the wind.

Not surprising...you probably never take anyone who disagrees with you seriously and you it appears that you view anyone who does so in a logical way, as ranting. I'll just have pick up the shattered pieces of my life and somehow go on. Ha !

No rant here....sorry if you're having a rough time. I'm just sitting by the water with the family staying cool and enjoying the day. I'm happy to talk history but would prefer not to hear the information or ideas you might have to present, punctuated by insults and name calling.

As far as me whistling in the wind and focusing on secondary issues, you're obviously reading my every word and getting the message, hence your agitated tone. Rather than apologize for your original rudeness (which I could forgive) you continue to side step my original comment about you having called us "a bunch of uninformed posters" based upon one persons comment that you disagreed with. You continue dragging in red herring after red herring in an attempt to cover your tracks. You keep bringing up secondary issues and then accuse me of it.

Again, you're not as clever as you've been led to believe.

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William Miller

by lepavoux in

" this is the man who made it all happen" type this in.. this is how the watchtower organization began!

!.

Pete Zahut

If you felt I called you names, then you see yourself in the criticism.

Exactly !! Just because you didn't agree with ONE persons comment, you said "this forum is made up of a bunch of uninformed posters". Unless you were you referring to a group of individuals on another forum, I took that to include me.

By suggesting that I'm comparing my words to those of Jesus, you are erecting a straw-man argument.

You were the one who brought Jesus into the conversation and you used his authoritative way of speaking as a defense for your own rudeness. If you think I'm erecting a straw-man, then it's likely because you are trying to use my "straw-man as a "red herring" to derail the conversation and because you see yourself in the comparison, but can't bear that it's true.

vienne sorry for the typo in the last sentence, which should read "many of whom"

Yes....thanks for the apology....the uninformed bunch that we are, we'd have never figured that out for ourselves and would have the right to call you names such as uneducated or ignorant.

If you haven't figured out what I'm saying by now, it's either because you refuse to believe that you could ever be wrong or its because you're not as clever as you think you are....at least not clever enough to be using such harsh words such as moron or uninformed toward people whom you've never met based on a few words typed across a screen .

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William Miller

by lepavoux in

" this is the man who made it all happen" type this in.. this is how the watchtower organization began!

!.

Pete Zahut

viennean hour ago
Pete,
You seem to define 'nice' as non-controversial. They're not the same thing. It would not be 'nice' to let those purveying ignorance on important issues to remain ignorant?

Where would you get such an idea? If you read my original comment without the obvious filters you have on, you'll see that all I'm asking of you is to relay the information you wish to relay and do so without calling names such as " uninformed and Morinc". Just because you believe you may feel you are more informed on a matter doesn't mean you get to speak condescendingly to those who aren't as informed as you think they should be. I don't see were all this hostility is coming from?

Jesus condemned the Scribes and Pharisees in boldy explicit terms; if you were there to hear it first hand would you have been offended, or would you have recognized the truthfulness of what he said?

Really....are you comparing your words on this forum to the message Jesus? He was the Son of GOD and anything he said, he said with authority and he said it in person. You are a mere mortal as are the rest of us, and you have no more authority than anyone else on this forum. Unlike Jesus, your harsh words are coming from the safety of anonymity.

Once again, you are free to do as you please but I'm asking you to simply say what you have to say but leave out the name calling. I don't know how to be more clear.